Important Enough To Read, But Not Important Enough To Listen To January 8, 2011
Posted by befuddled2 in Constitution, Current Events, Politics, Right wing.Tags: congress, Constitution, controversy, Founders, House of Representatives, Original Intent, Reading Constitution, Republicans
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First the House Republicans make a huge production about the importance of reading the Constitution on the floor of the House. Then when they read it, most do not stay all the way through. Attendance was rather sparse for this supposedly important event.
In fact the speaker of the House, John Boehner and Eric Cantor, second ranking Republican in the House, could not even make time to stay and respectfully listen to the document they supposedly hold in such high regard and whose reading was so important.
Now I am not going to state whether this was just a political stunt on the part of the Republicans or not. If it was it was clumsily done. If it was generated by a sincere appreciation of the Constitution and an honest belief of the importance of reading it aloud in the House – well that sincerity and honesty must be only half felt. Otherwise they would all have attended and stayed throughout the reading.
And would have read the complete Constitution.
They left out the bit about slavery and also omitted the 18th amendment. Even though both were later changed they are still part of the original historical document. The Original…. that is something that Republicans have made into a bit of a fetish.
For example, take their mantra of original intent. That sounds nice - just look at how our founders understood the Constitution and follow along. However there is a huge problem with this, that being when you cite original intent you must also ask which founder’s original intent.
A quick look at history shows that our founders, many of whom were at the Constitutional Convention and helped write this document, disagreed vehemently with each other on the meaning of what they wrote and how best to implement it. In fact, at times the rhetoric of their disagreements reached truly Glen Beckian proportions in terms of its vitriol.
Republicans are fond of quoting just one of the founders and ignoring the voices of the other founders who disagreed. For example, I recently carried on a conversation with a very conservative Republican individual who argued that our social security, welfare, and many other such programs were unconstitutional since they were not specifically mentioned in the Constitution. In fact, he was for eliminating about 90% of our government as unconstitutional.
He further stated that liberals and the courts have erred in their reading of the “general welfare” clause of the Constitution that has been used to justify some of these programs and cited Jefferson and Madison as the basis of his views. He seemed to believe that their beliefs on how to interpret this clause was shared by all of our founders.
Before I post my response to this claim let me point out that it should be fairly obvious that the Constitution was meant to be interpreted. It is too short to be an effective guide to forming and running a government without being interpreted. Just think of government policies or even private industry policies and how long they are as they try to deal with every circumstance. Now compare that to the length of the Constitution, even with the amendments, that is our guide to running a complete national government.
It is an conceit born of ignorance to think that the Constitution can work without interpreting it. Especially since this greatest of all political documents has to deal with a changing world – internet, easier travel, better communications, improved technology and medicine, etc – all of which create issues our founders never had to deal with.
I was pleased that in doing research for my response that this point had been brought up in previous Supreme Court rulings.
As for my response to my very very conservative Republican:
You seem to overlook the fact that our founders did NOT agree with each other. This holds true both for the meaning of and how to properly implement “the general welfare” clause as it does for every other section of the Constitution.
In fact, Madison’s co-author of the Federalist papers, Alexander Hamilton, disagreed with Madison and Jefferson and took a much broader view of what this clause meant. This broader view was one that at least two other of our founders, Washington and Monroe, shared.
Now, while it was not until the 1936 U.S vs. Butler ruling that the Supreme Court ruled explicitly that Hamilton’s more literal and broader interpretation of the “general welfare” clause was the correct one there were several other rulings that laid the foundation for a broader interpretation of the Constitution along the lines that Washington, Adams, Monroe, and Hamilton argued for.
For example, Jefferson and Madison argued against a national bank by stating that it was not explicitly allowed by the Constitution. Hamilton, with Washington’s concurrence, argued that it was necessary in order to carry out the provisions of the Constitution. Hamilton won, both in the Congress at the time and later on in a Supreme Court ruling – McCulloch vs. Maryland in 1819.
In that ruling, Chief Justice Marshall argued that Congress can act on both explicit and implied powers. He stated that this must be so just as a matter of pragmatism; that if all the means of implementing the explicit powers were listed the Constitution would become much too lengthy to be practical or to be understood.
In other words, the Constitution was a framework of basic ideas that would need interpretation to be fleshed out into a working government.
In this particular case his ruling said that since Congress had the explicit powers to issue and borrow money, collect taxes, and maintain armies then they had the implicit power under the “necessary and proper” clause to establish a National Bank.
In this decision Justice Marshall wrote that: “Let the end be legitimate, let it be within the scope of the constitution, and all means which are appropriate, which are plainly adapted to that end, which are not prohibited, but consist with the letter and spirit of the constitution, are constitutional…”
He also stated that the Constitution “…intended to endure for ages to come, and, consequently, to be adapted to the various crisis of human affairs.”
In other words this unanimous ruling by the Supreme Court in 1819 stated that the Constitution had to be interpreted to be a workable document and may have to be “adapted” to changing times.
As a side note I should mention that Daniel Webster argued this case before the Supreme Court and argued brilliantly for a broad view of the Constitution. He obviously won the case.
Perhaps I should let Alexander Hamilton now have the last say here.
[A] criterion of what is constitutional, and of what is not so … is the end, to which the measure relates as a mean. If the end be clearly comprehended within any of the specified powers, and if the measure have an obvious relation to that end, and is not forbidden by any particular provision of the Constitution, it may safely be deemed to come within the compass of the national authority. “
In other words, broad readings of the Constitution are Constitutional. And have been argued to be so by many of our founders from the beginning.
Let’s Face It: Abortion Is a Hard Sell February 20, 2010
Posted by Dindy in Television, Religious Right, Family Values, health, abortion, Right wing.Tags: protesters, abortion, pro choice, anti-abortion, pro-life, feminist, feminism, women's issues, women, Focus on the Family, Women's Media Center, Feminist Majority, National Organization for Women, Super Bowl, advertising, Tim Tebow, Pam Tebow, Jemhu Greene, CBS, NOW, Erin Matson
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Let me start this blog with a disclaimer: I strongly support the right of all women to have access to safe and legal abortion. I consider myself to be a feminist, and I abhor almost everything Focus on the Family stands for. However, my personal opinion is the Women’s Media Center, the National Organization for Women, the Feminist Majority and other groups did more harm than good with their protest against a Super Bowl ad featuring college football star Tim Tebow and his mother. Without apparently having viewed the ad in advance, Jemhu Greene, president of the Women’s Media Center, said:
“An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sports event of the year–an event designed to bring Americans together.”
The protest letter from the Women’s Media Center suggested that CBS should have turned down the ad because of the sponsor, Focus on the Family:
“By offering one of the most coveted advertising spots of the year to an anti-equality, anti-choice, homophobic organization, CBS is aligning itself with a political stance that will damage its reputation, alienate viewers, and discourage consumers from supporting its shows and advertisers.”
NOW Action Vice President Erin Matson, in a blog on their website shrilled:
“Make no mistake about this ad: it’s offensive to women. Yes, it features Heisman trophy winner Tim Tebow and his mother, who had been advised to have an abortion after a serious illness. Standing alone, it sends the message that all women who give birth are heroes; it sends a message that abortion is always a mistake; and it is insulting to the one in three women in this country who have abortions.”
Well I saw the ad, and I sure didn’t see any of those things. The truth is, if I hadn’t been aware of the furor ahead of time, I wouldn’t have realized it was an anti-abortion ad. The word abortion is never mentioned. Pam Tebow talks about Tim being her miracle baby and says his birth was difficult. She says that she almost lost him several times and added, “With all our family’s been through, we have to be tough.” Tim then comes on and tackles her and she scolds him. “Timmy, I’m trying to tell our story here.” A message comes on the screen telling people to go to the Focus on the Family website for more about the Tim Tebow story, and Tim asks, “You still worry about me, Mom?” She replies, “Well yeah. You’re not nearly as tough as I am.” The interplay between Tim and his mother is rather sweet. My guess is that the dreaded, so-called anti-abortion message skipped over the heads of most people watching unless they already knew about it.
By protesting so heavily against the ad, the women’s groups only came across as shrill and as seeming to be against the very things they claim to support: freedom of speech and freedom of choice. The posts on Now’s Blog for Equality in which they screeched against the ad pretty much bear this out. One comment said:
“This woman chose life. Why would you be against that? She had the right to make her own personal choice, a choice which opposed the advice of doctors. Isn’t that a success story, that a woman had the right to choose? By your outcry, you send the message that abortion is the only choice you support. Please, don’t do this, it hurts the cause.”
A big problem with the pro-choice movement is that abortion is a hard sell. The anti-abortion groups can show inspirational messages such as the Tim Tebow spot; they can show cute babies and children frolicking, they can plaster billboards with a chubby cheeked toddler saying, “My mother chose life,” and there’s not a real good way to argue against that. The pro-choice people can’t exactly show a picture of a child in a wheelchair with the counter message of, “my mother didn’t have the choice to abort me,” now can they?
Let’s face it folks. Abortion is NOT a good thing. We want less of them. Not more. However the message that came through was that these groups only support abortion and that they are against choice. What the pro-choice groups really need to get across is that NOBODY likes abortion. Presumably NOW doesn’t like it. Ditto the Feminist Majority. They could have used this ad as a stepping point to show what they do support. They could have said something like,
“Pam Tebow had a choice. We support that. We also support universal access to quality medical care such as what Pam Tebow evidently had. We support easy access to birth control and comprehensive sex education. We support programs that give girls and young women the skills they need not to be victims, not to give in to pressure from their boyfriends to have sex and how to protect themselves against rape and incest. We support programs that give all women access to prenatal care and programs that fight against alcohol abuse and drug addiction in women of child-bearing age as these are things that can affect the health of unborn children. We support programs that teach boys about responsibility so they can learn how to be fathers and not just sperm donors, and we support programs that ensure that no child has to go to bed with an empty stomach.
“We support programs that will move us forward to a day when no woman needs to choose abortion. But we are not there yet and until that day comes, we support safe and legal abortion. We support women. We support families. We support choice.”
The women’s groups had a great opportunity with the Tim Tebow Super Bowl ad, and they blew it. Rather than attracting anyone to their cause, they alienated a whole bunch of people and ensured that others who probably wouldn’t have even noticed the ad amidst all the other ads on Super Bowl Sunday paid a great deal of attention to it. They enabled Focus on the Family to take the high road, and that is the last place that this group deserves to be.
You Can Have Any Result you Want as long as It’s Right January 9, 2010
Posted by Dindy in Evolution, Religious Right, Right wing, Science, Uncategorized.Tags: anti-homosexuality, Christian missionaries, creation research society, creationism, Evolution, homosexuality, homosexuals, ideology, intelligent design, scheintific method, Science, scientific method, scientist, scientists, Uganda
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With their teachings about “curing” homosexuals largely discredited in the US, three Christian missionaries went to Uganda. One month after their visit, a largely unknown Ugandan politician introduced a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior- the Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009. The three American missionaries are now trying to distance themselves from the bill.
Such is the problem when science crosses with ideology– if the results don’t support the ideology, the ideology wins. One big issue that scientists have with Intelligent Design and Creationism is the statement of belief that members and associated researchers are required to sign. Below is the statement from the Creation Research Society.
CRS Statement of BeliefAll members must subscribe to the following statement of belief:
1. The Bible is the written Word of God, and because it is inspired throughout, all its assertions are historically and scientifically true in the original autographs. To the student of nature this means that the account of origins in Genesis is a factual presentation of simple historical truths.
2. All basic types of living things, including man, were made by direct creative acts of God during the Creation Week described in Genesis. Whatever biological changes have occurred since Creation Week have accomplished only changes within the original created kinds.
3. The great flood described in Genesis, commonly referred to as the Noachian Flood, was an historic event worldwide in its extent and effect.
4. We are an organization of Christian men and women of science who accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. The account of the special creation of Adam and Eve as one man and one woman and their subsequent fall into sin is the basis for our belief in the necessity of a Savior for all mankind. Therefore, salvation can come only through accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior.
This violates one of the basic tenets of scientific research, which is that when the results don’t validate the hypothesis, the hypothesis needs to change.
While religious idealogues are often guilty of this, they are not the only ones. Witness the anti-vaccination groups who refuse to accept the numerous studies that show absolutely no link between autism and vaccines, or the anti-electrical wires groups who refuse to accept the numerous studies showing absolutely no link between cancer and electrical lines.
Sometimes this ideology simply results in bad science. Other times it results in much, much more. In the case of Uganda, the results are ominous, indeed.
Domestic Militias Fear the WRONG Administration November 27, 2009
Posted by Dindy in Current Events, Right wing.Tags: alaska Citzens Militia, civil liberties, domestic militia, dubya, George Bush, homeland security, militia, Norm Olson, right-wing, Southern Poverty Law Center, war on terrorism, warrantless, warrantless surveillance, wire tap
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The domestic militia whackos are rising again. After nearly a decade in which we didn’t hear much about them, now that a Democrat is in president again, they are resurging. The Southern Poverty Law Center has identified at least 50 new right wing militia groups that have been formed in the last two years.
Norm Olson of the Alaska Citizens Militia explains his rationale for Americans arming themselves against the government.
“The federal government can roll into your driveway in the middle of the night and snatch you up and take you away, and you’ll never be seen again.” ~ Associated Press
The last time we saw such activity in the militia groups, another Democrat was president– Bill Clinton. These groups clearly tie democratic presidencies with their fears about government excesses.
So let’s look at this a little bit. I can certainly agree with Mr. Olson that the government should not be able to snatch citizens up in the middle of the night and take them away. I can also agree that our civil liberties are very important. I think I should be able to talk to whomever I want to on the phone without worrying about the government listening in on my private conversations. I also think that I should be able to check whatever books I want to out of the library without the government knowing or caring WHAT I am reading. I think that I should be able to meet with other people without having to worry about whether I am sitting next to a government spy at my rubber chicken dinner. And if I am arrested, I should not be held in prison for years without even knowing what the charges are against me. I think that the government should not be able to go snooping in my bank records, and I certainly don’t want my ISP reporting my internet habits to the Department of Homeland Security.
What’s more, I’m willing to bet that Mr. Olson doesn’t want any of these things either. Yet, it was a Republican Administration, that of George Dubya Bush, that put all these things in place– not only can the government go snooping into your library records, your internet habits and your phone calls, but it no longer even needs a warrant to do so. This was all part of Dubya’s war on terrorism, you know.
Now you would think that, being concerned about the government sneaking around and snooping into their personal business and all, that these right wing militia groups would have been busting out of the woodwork when Dubya was president. But they waited till AFTER he got out of office to start stockpiling their guns and playing soldiers in the backwoods.
Maybe these guys are smarter than I thought. Guess they figured that if they’d gotten themselves together when Dubya was in office, they really WOULD have stood a good chance of being carted away in the middle of the night and never seen again. Now that we have an administration that has SOME modicum of understanding of civil liberties, Mr. Olson can go play soldiers in the backwoods without much real threat of the government coming in and spiriting them away.
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